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-{Citizen}- Leshrak: This is sony. They don't give a shit what people in
            the BBB say about them
-{Citizen}- Grantref: they don't care what anyone says about them
-{Citizen}- Grantref: they're arrogant, secretive, proprietary, focused on
            aesthetics to an unwise degree, and to make it worse, their
            products generally suck. They're like the anti-Apple.
-{Citizen}- Rosuav chuckles
-{Citizen}- Grantref: who are arrogant, secretive, proprietary, focused on
            aesthetics to an unwise degree, but manage to turn all that
            into compelling, industry-leading products
-{Citizen}- Rosuav: Yeah, I was just gonna say. Apple are all that.
-{Citizen}- Grantref: that's my point. They're like an electron and a
            positron, exactly alike except for charge.